Recently in my Stay at Home Catholic Mom's - yahoo group, there was a heated discussion on the controversial issue of spanking your children. I was thinking after all this debate, where I stood exactly on this issue. So after a bit of thinking on it, I thought I'd post my thoughts on the issue.
If someone asks me if I believe in spanking, my first reaction is always a good strong no, but in certain circumstances, it's okay. So after thinking about that lately, I've changed my thoughts. I don't really think in any circumstance a spanking is okay. I actually think it's quite hypocritical to tell your child that it's not okay to hit and then when they're doing something displeasing to you (or to someone else) they get a spank. Hmm... doesn't sound quite right there. Aren't we supposed to be the examples? By spanking, aren't we saying that it's okay to hit someone if they're doing something you don't think is okay?
I don't want to write this and lead anyone to believe that I haven't given Landen a swat before, because I certainly have but I always find myself feeling very disappointed in myself after the fact. I know in my gut (that good ol' motherly instinct) it wasn't the right thing to do, I lost my temper and didn't do what I should have done in the beginning, before it got to that point. A lot of times it's the last straw - "oh my gosh, I'm so mad, you aren't listening - swat." If would have stood back - said a Hail Mary, (and I used to do this when I was getting really upset, it gave me awhile to step back and look over the situation before I took action. I don't know why I quit doing that.) and then dealt with it, I know the outcome would have been a lot better.
Let me give you a little example of what I mean - by dealing with it before it gets to the point of wanting to give a spanking. I'm on the computer, he running around basically doing what he wants (to a certain degree), doing things that if I was paying better attention too he wouldn't be doing. Then he's hitting the keyboard, making the CD burner go in and out, the CD drive in and out, turning off the monitor, picking at Amelia.. I keep just saying "stop it" because I want to do what I want to do. Finally it's so irritating that I'm mad and would want to give him a swat because he's not listening. Please, if I would have dealt with it in the beginning, none of that would have happened. I try very hard not to let things like this happen - it's my vocation as a mother to tend to my children's needs and teach them without flying off the handle because I wasn't doing my job for awhile. Not that there aren't times that you need to have some time to yourself (a topic for another time), it's hard being a wife and mom but you also need to be a good mother and teach them while they're young. Be the example to them.
I also have to point out that the way that I parent my child makes it quite easy to not need to spank. I think for the most part we've mastered The Look, that Dr. Sears talks so much about. I praise Landen a lot, every little thing he does (some may think it's a little to much - but there can never be too much praising in my opinion) so when I give him the look of disappointment, he usually knows he shouldn't be doing what he's doing. Not to say that he doesn't test me, because he does on a daily basis, but I believe he knows what he shouldn't be doing - as far as a 2 1/2 year old boy can.
I have to throw in here too - the words I hear far to often from people, and this relates to spanking. "Well, my parents did it to us, and we turned out pretty good." Honestly there is something about that that really gets me worked up. I hate when people say that about things. It can pretty much be said for everything and it's a load of garbage. There are lots of things that our older generations did that were fads that weren't the right thing to do. Not everything because a lot of things that our generation is doing that the past wasn't - is not right (once again a topic for another time). However, I do initially follow what my parents did/do, because I know that they look into things, they don't just follow the crowd because that's what everyone else is doing at the time. BUT, I look into everything myself (Kurt and I look into it) before making a final decision on what I'm going to do.
Really, I don't think that people should spank their children. Have I occasionally swatted Landen, of course but I do feel badly about it afterwards and know that it wasn't the right thing to do. I have an easy to manage little guy and there is absolutely no reason to ever hit him. I wouldn't want someone to hit me if I was doing something wrong and really hitting is never okay for anyone to do. It's mean and cruel. There are other ways to discipline, loving ways. I don't think you should have no discipline, it's important, but there are lots of different ways. We're still testing the waters, let me tell you. Right now we're doing "quiet time" and when I say that - Landen isn't alone sitting there. I'm sitting there talking to him and then we're just quiet for awhile. It doesn't always go smoothly, but it's working. We expect please, thank you, sorry, etc, as much as a 2 1/2 year old can be expected to do - and it's not a lot.
From this post, I want to get across that there are other ways to discipline and I think our "non- spanking" approach is working quite well. With a few mishaps thrown in there. Hey, I'm not perfect and I'm trying and failing everyday. =)
Also, I'm sure throughout this post I have a lot of "I" do this with our children. Kurt and I parent together as a team and everything we do is decided together.
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)




12 comments:
Everything you write makes me see how ALIKE we are!! I could have posted this myself word for word! Keep in mind through this story that I feel the exact same way as you do: The other day I had just about HAD IT with Landon--He was not listening, he was being defiant and jumping all ove my sister (putting his nose in her butt if you must know--ha ha ha)--Anyways, I threatened to spank him after I was boiling over and he got worse (of course, right? I mean DUH, Jen!). I threatened him again and he HIT ME! So, I spanked his arm right above his hand and he looked at me with this awful, terrified, sad look--a look filled with distrust and fear and confusion and then he just LOST it. He cried uncontrollably for an hour--sobbing until he trew up. He cried until little sobs just racked his body while I held him and talked gently to him. He asked between sobs, "Mommy, why--did--you---hit--meeeeeeeEEE??" and it broke my heart. He cried himself to sleep that night, wrapped in my arms, my own tears spilling over him all night--I couldn't believe how he reacted--It was nightmarish! The next morning, it was the first thing he mentioned. I said, "We had a rough day yesterday, didn't we, Buddy?" (I was actually talking about him getting hurt and being mad at Andy for going to work on a weekend) and he said, "Yeah. You hit me." quivering chin starting up, tears in his little eyes again. He never understood why I hit him, just that I hit him. A punishment teaches a lesson--Spanking Landon never teaches him anything. I promised him I'd never spank him again and we promised never to hit each other and hugged, but he was visibly shaken. Would you believe I am hypocritical enough to have threatened a spank since then? UGH! I get so disappointed in myself!! I HATE spanking! It is just a way for the parent to work out their frustration--I find that true in my case anyways. It's my anger spilling over and it feels like abuse (even though I have never spanked him hard enough to "hurt" him)--Sorry for the long story. In a nutshell, the few times Landon has been spanked, he has learned nothing and it has done more harm than good. What works for him might not work for the next kid, but this is my experience :o( *sigh*
Jenn- we are so very similar!
I have stories the same as your's with your Landon. Swatting/spanking whatever does absolutely nothing for us. It makes our Landen so upset. He screams, cries harder and even becomes more aggressive. I think you are absolutley right it is just a waysto get our frustrations out, but it doesn't work. It's not good for parents or children. Thank you for a great comment!
Andrea... I think I tend to agree with most everything you said. If I spank, I tend to spank in anger, and that's not helpful to any of us. The last thing we need is Annalivia and Daniel learning that anger is an excuse to physically transgress against another.
I do want to say, though, that I have a friend who spanks -- but not in anger at all. I didn't think that was possible, but when she spanks it is a physical attention-getting thing. She has a very different philosophy/ theology than I do, but I must say -- spanking works in her family. She is also the kind of person who never seems to be frustrated or angry or preoccupied or anything. Her kids are happy and vibrant almost all of the time. They also obey her incredibly well. Which I have to admit, I'm jealous of. And she has rules for spanking -- when she or her children are angry, she DOESN'T spank. It was really interesting to me because I've never seen spanking used that way, but the way she does it, I could see it being effective and even, dare I say it, helpful.
So -- where I used to say -- spanking is NEVER ok, I think I've come to the point where I think some people can do it without physical and mental harm to their children or themselves. BUT -- I am not one of those people. I only spank when I'm angry and then I'm mean and stupid. So I try really hard not to do it. And my guess is probably more of us AREN'T that sort of person who can handle spanking with grace than ARE, but I think that there are a few people in the world who use spanking as a tool pretty effectively.
Does that make sense at all?
April,
Thank you for your comment. I would be interested in hearing your friends philosophy. I have heard of people spanking to teach their child that there are physical consequences and they do it without anger. I don't think I could do it though. I think I'll go the non-spanking approach and that's working best for us. =) With of course my many stumbles to get there. Your comment made perfect sense by the way.
Andrea(and Jennifer), I didnt comment on the group cause of the whole issue but I have spanked/smacked mouths when bad language has come out and I always feel horrible. It always upsets Ethan so much where he gets really upset, more than before, crying, screaming, etc and Alex just laughs at me! It doesn't help at all and I feel so horrible just thinking about it right now. I'm actually in tears right now cause I always tell the boys I won't ever spank them again and then a few days later I reach that point and I do. I feel so crappy and like a bad mom cause its always out of anger or frustration and you guys are so right, how can we teach them not to hit and than spank them? Also, I yell WAY too much. I mean, they are just being kids, playing, being loud, whatever and after the tenth time of me telling them to please quiet down, pick up, whatever, I resort to yelling and screaming at them, which makes them upset/angry/sad/scared, etc and then makes me feel more upset. It's a vicious cycle and it scares me a little, ya know? I love them so much and I don't ever want to be "that mom", if you know what I mean. Anyway, I've poured my heart out here and wow, I feel better, but at the same time worse, cause now I can see it in words. that sounds wierd but putting out there for my friends to see is hard, that I am having such a hard time. Well anyway, you all are much better at this than me, so I am going to keep reading and listening and taking your advice! love you guys!
We love you too Crystal and believe ME, you are NOT a bad mom!! Not many women could do what you're doing with Jason being away, raising two kids on your own and dealing with the new house and everything. I know exactly how you feel, though and yelling is something I'm sure we all try to work on, right girls? *sigh* I just try to remember to think about things through his little-boy-point-of-view...There's usually a reason for everything they do. It's harder with two b/c they can get on each others' nerves and get into trouble together, but kids are kids. I usually find that when I'm spending more time w/ Landon and playing with him or taking him places, I almost never need to yell...I just wish I could think of more good ideas of how to entertain him! Good sleeping and keeping their tummies full is a must, too! I'm going to go watch a Ron Paul debate now and get off my soap box--ha ha ha!
Thanks Jen! actually we had a better night tonight. after I wrote that and the boys were being loud while i was taking "mommy time", I went to go out and get after them, I stopped in the doorway, deep breath, Hail Mary and calmly asked them to quiet down, lets get ready for bed, etc and WOW~ total change! Ethan asked me nicely for a story and I said sure. They both fell asleep as I was reading it, and I wasn't rushing through like I do sometimes. And Alex NEVER falls asleep right away, he's usually up there talking for a half hour or so, but I usually read them a story in the living room, then usher them upstairs, make sure they get jammies on, get in bed, kisses and good nights, lights out, go downstairs. but I think we will be changing our routine, first jammies, then bed then story! well thanks for listening and for the encouragement. Its much appreciated.
Wow! I was going to comment on your post, but there is nothing left to say! I agree with all of you. Whenever I have spanked it has been in anger and completely ineffective. We use sentence and essay writing. Even the 3 year old can write 2 or 3 sentences if they are short and I write it out for him first. My oldest is very susceptible to agressive behavior so the message that 'hitting when you're angry is okay' is not a message I want to send him. To tell you the truth though, on the message board, I never got upset about the spanking issue. I got upset when someone accused me of only looking to a dog trainer for parenting tips. That was so out of line. Thank goodness we've moved on! God bless!! :-)
I believe in spanking only in situations where the child is in danger and needs a instant, dramatic correction to get them to stop NOW (such as playing with electrical outlet covers!)
I completely agree it is ridiculous to hit a child as punishment for hitting!
I've heard ONE spank is the correction...anything more than that is just the parent taking their anger out on the child. The purpose of a spank should be to GET THEIR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION not to punish them.
One last thought on this subject: Isn't it funny that so many people still try to justify spanking their child in a day and age when EVERYONE seems so quick to sue anyone who even looks at their child the wrong way. Teachers can't even touch a student, but it's okay if parents HIT a child out of anger. Hmmm...Something to think about. :o)
Jenn.. for your last comment (ha ha, maybe!?!?!) I too have thought about that.
As a Christian, I believe that we are supposed to correct our children with spanking, BUT never in anger and always with an understanding between you and the child. They have to know WHY you are spanking, and that you still love them.
That being said, I am also guilty of spanking out of anger most times, and so I try to avoid spanking if at all possible.
Whatever form of discipline, consistency is the absolute KEY!
Post a Comment